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	<title>Comments on: Web Visions Presentation</title>
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	<description>I&#039;m a web technologist interested in product and user experience design strategy with deep expertise in frontend engineering &#38; web development.</description>
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		<title>By: New Article at Boxes &#38; Arrows on Prototyping with XHTML &#8212; Anders Ramsay.com</title>
		<link>http://nate.koechley.com/blog/2004/07/19/web-visions-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-114651</link>
		<dc:creator>New Article at Boxes &#38; Arrows on Prototyping with XHTML &#8212; Anders Ramsay.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] later sent me the slides from her presentation, “First Things First: IA and CSS,” which she gave with Nate Koechley at WebVisions 2004, and which described a method for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] later sent me the slides from her presentation, “First Things First: IA and CSS,” which she gave with Nate Koechley at WebVisions 2004, and which described a method for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Web Visions 2008 Conference - Nate Koechley&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://nate.koechley.com/blog/2004/07/19/web-visions-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-86002</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Visions 2008 Conference - Nate Koechley&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m partial because the first conference talk of my career (First Things First: IA and CSS) was at WebVisions 2004 (thanks for Christina [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Clark</title>
		<link>http://nate.koechley.com/blog/2004/07/19/web-visions-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying the PowerPoint file (which Google has not HTMLified) and I find it has many code samples and screenshots intermingled with the slides.

Booboo?

BTW, your preview font colours are dark green on lighter green.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying the PowerPoint file (which Google has not HTMLified) and I find it has many code samples and screenshots intermingled with the slides.</p>
<p>Booboo?</p>
<p>BTW, your preview font colours are dark green on lighter green.</p>
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		<title>By: Espen D</title>
		<link>http://nate.koechley.com/blog/2004/07/19/web-visions-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Espen D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you presentation realy hit the spot.  For me being a coder your ideas about how IA should deliver their work realy makes sense. I think that it would make communication between IA and coders a whole lot easier (with common names etc.) and leaves more time to focus on the user experience insted of clearing out misunderstandings. Great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you presentation realy hit the spot.  For me being a coder your ideas about how IA should deliver their work realy makes sense. I think that it would make communication between IA and coders a whole lot easier (with common names etc.) and leaves more time to focus on the user experience insted of clearing out misunderstandings. Great work!</p>
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		<title>By: ed nixon</title>
		<link>http://nate.koechley.com/blog/2004/07/19/web-visions-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>ed nixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An IA advocacy page with downloadable content called &quot;final&quot;...&quot;forweb&quot;... &quot;final_optimized&quot;?!

...edN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An IA advocacy page with downloadable content called &#8220;final&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;forweb&#8221;&#8230; &#8220;final_optimized&#8221;?!</p>
<p>&#8230;edN</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene T.S. Wong</title>
		<link>http://nate.koechley.com/blog/2004/07/19/web-visions-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene T.S. Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame that I couldn&#039;t read the HTML version. I tried to escape the frame by selecting &quot;Maximize&quot; with Opera&#039;s context menu, but it would always go back to the framed version. Whether I viewed your page with CSS enabled or disabled, I still had a difficult time reading it. With it enabled, much of the text overlaped itself on the 1st slide, making it impossible to read. When I disabled the text &amp; tried to read the text in the left frame, I had to scroll left &amp; right just to read it, because I couldn&#039;t adjust the frame. I honestly don&#039;t understand the significance of making frames unadjustable. I looked @ the images, but they were too small.

I pretty much gave up about 1/3 of the way. I don&#039;t mean to be negative, but I haven&#039;t seen a page like that in ages.

That being said, I&#039;m sure that you have a logical explanation for it. I do agree with you on what appears to be your main point: when you are dealing with web pages you are dealing with a database. I honestly wondered why nobody said anything about this. Most people seem to think of it as a presentation.

Thanks for your time.

-- 
Sincerely, &amp; with thanks,
Eugene T.S. Wong</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame that I couldn&#8217;t read the HTML version. I tried to escape the frame by selecting &#8220;Maximize&#8221; with Opera&#8217;s context menu, but it would always go back to the framed version. Whether I viewed your page with CSS enabled or disabled, I still had a difficult time reading it. With it enabled, much of the text overlaped itself on the 1st slide, making it impossible to read. When I disabled the text &#038; tried to read the text in the left frame, I had to scroll left &#038; right just to read it, because I couldn&#8217;t adjust the frame. I honestly don&#8217;t understand the significance of making frames unadjustable. I looked @ the images, but they were too small.</p>
<p>I pretty much gave up about 1/3 of the way. I don&#8217;t mean to be negative, but I haven&#8217;t seen a page like that in ages.</p>
<p>That being said, I&#8217;m sure that you have a logical explanation for it. I do agree with you on what appears to be your main point: when you are dealing with web pages you are dealing with a database. I honestly wondered why nobody said anything about this. Most people seem to think of it as a presentation.</p>
<p>Thanks for your time.</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Sincerely, &#038; with thanks,<br />
Eugene T.S. Wong</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Nelson</title>
		<link>http://nate.koechley.com/blog/2004/07/19/web-visions-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for an excellent presentation -- I&#039;m in a team of 1.5 instead of part of a cast of thousands, but the points you made had a lot of resonance for me nonetheless.

And I&#039;m glad you liked my notes.  (I was the gal typing like a mad freak about 5 rows back.)  I&#039;m happy to have them myself, now, as I try to put all of this into practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for an excellent presentation &#8212; I&#8217;m in a team of 1.5 instead of part of a cast of thousands, but the points you made had a lot of resonance for me nonetheless.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m glad you liked my notes.  (I was the gal typing like a mad freak about 5 rows back.)  I&#8217;m happy to have them myself, now, as I try to put all of this into practice.</p>
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		<title>By: CD Evans</title>
		<link>http://nate.koechley.com/blog/2004/07/19/web-visions-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>CD Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks you two. Good stuff for understanding the engineering of the materials!

CD Evans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks you two. Good stuff for understanding the engineering of the materials!</p>
<p>CD Evans</p>
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		<title>By: Miky Luke</title>
		<link>http://nate.koechley.com/blog/2004/07/19/web-visions-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Miky Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really good work. I found a lot of profound information which can help me to go on. Thanks for all this input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really good work. I found a lot of profound information which can help me to go on. Thanks for all this input.</p>
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		<title>By: pierre</title>
		<link>http://nate.koechley.com/blog/2004/07/19/web-visions-presentation/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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